so the cyclone is too big for the folding ones to properly fold? that stinks...and I was thinking of a folding stock, though I have a CAR stock and it does well for my needs so I may just hold onto that for now...

There are folding stocks that works well because they are notch so that it doesn't interfere with the cyclone operation. However, I'm going rip clip so that's no problem for me.

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jaja nice! I need to get a cyclone for the 98C and Alpha Black...